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Summer 1997
Articles
Tunes
- Duck River
- Last of Harris
- Whistlin' Rufus
- Old Time Backstep Cindy
- Grub Springs
- Lost Indian
- Cuilinn Ui Chaoimh
- Swing Low Sweet Chariot
- You've Got to Walk That Lonesome Valley
- Reel del Carnevale
- Tsifterelli
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The Romance of the Kentucky Fiddler
By Bruce Greene
To love Kentucky fiddling is to have a romance with
the past. It is music that is intimately tied to the land and a rural way
of life that has now mostly disappeared, but lives on in the colorfully
named tunes and equally colorful characters who have passed them down to
us. For most people in the 1990s, however, the days when rural fiddling
was still passed down through the generations as a living tradition seem
very remote and long ago. The few fiddlers who survived into the late twentieth
century and grew up in that tradition are looked upon with reverence, for
they are survivors of a simple, unhurried world that has long ago been left
behind by our fast-paced technological society, and they have left us with
our only clues into the mystery of where this music came from and what shaped
it into its present form. There is much to be learned from their lives,
because with their presence gone from the world, old time fiddling as a
traditional art has passed some invisible point of no return. Now we can
learn from recordings, books, at camps, and at festivals. We can learn to
play old time, Cajun, Irish, contest style. It is still traditional music,
but it is no longer rooted in traditional culture. Fiddle music will never
again be learned the way the old timers learned it by absorbing
it in the course of everyday life.
There is currently a great revival of interest
in traditional Kentucky fiddling, and for good reason. Nowhere has a greater
body of fine tunes, lore, and legend been retained and preserved for our
inspiration. This interest was first fueled by Library of Congress recordings
made in the 1930s by Alan Lomax of Luther Strong, William Stepp, and other
eastern Kentucky fiddlers. Their extraordinarily skilled, archaic playing
led others to speculate on the potential musical treasures in that area.
Folklorists and collectors began to comb the hills for still living fiddlers,
and field recordings by D. K. Wilgus, Lynwood Montell, John Cohen, Peter
Hoover, and others proved that they were still there. In the 1970s, independent
collectors, led by Guthrie Meade, Bruce Greene, and John Harrod began systematically
documenting the fiddle traditions of large parts of the state. A three volume
set of commercial reissues called Old Time Fiddle Band Music from Kentucky,
and a collection of home recordings of legendary fiddler Ed Haley were released.
Recently, the Berea College series of recordings of Kentucky fiddlers, and
two volumes of field recordings called Traditional Fiddle Music of Kentucky
were also released, adding immensely to the wider awareness of the great
depth and variety of fiddle music from the state, as well as to the myths
and romance that have always been part of the public perception of Kentucky.
The images have been present for a long
time. In colonial times, the Kentucky country was looked on as the remote
and mysterious frontier, the Cumberland Gap as the gateway to independence
and unbelievably fertile land. In literature, the legendary hunters and
explorers and adventurers more often than not claimed Kentucky as their
land of origin, as if that somehow gave more credibility to their larger
than life achievements. In the first part of the 1900s, when ballad collecting
was in great vogue, Kentucky was looked upon in its isolation as the last
stronghold of our Elizabethan forebears from the old world, and therefore
the most fertile ground for finding the ancient ballads still intact. Local
color stories and magazine articles depicted Kentucky in the same way
a land where the past nostalgically lived on, unaffected by the rest of
the world. Even in the 1970s, people would tell me, "Oh, yes, Ive
always heard that all the best fiddlers came out of Kentucky." Kentucky
has been pervaded by a deeply romanticized sense of reverence for the past.
Kentucky author Harriette Simpson Arnow
once wrote, "My people loved the past more than their present lives,
I think, but it cannot be said we lived in the past." And nowhere is
this statement more true than when applied to the Kentucky fiddler. I have
had the privilege of knowing a number of fiddlers from around the state
who were born before or shortly after the turn of the last century, and
they surely had one foot in the past and one in the present. They remembered
in great detail growing up in the days before automobiles, televisions,
telephones electricity at all, for that matter
yet they seemed quite at ease living in the modern world. Still, the past
was never far away. They seemed to have endless tales and reminiscences
concerning the music and where it came from and who were the great players
of olden times. Their reverence for the antiquity of the music and the fiddlers
from past generations was always fresh in their minds. I remember many conversations
about some old timer who had been dead for thirty years or more that ended
with, "You remember him, dont you?" As if I had been back
there with him, or it had just happened last week.
Much of Kentucky in the 1970s and 80s
was just such a mix of the past and the present, and by that time most of
the traditional music had slipped quietly into the background of peoples
lives. As an Allen County fiddler, James Hood said, "A lot of them
has quit. I know a lot of fiddlers I thought was better than anything you
hear now. But they said that so many of em got to playing different
kinds of music, playing different styles, that they just quit. Ive
had lots of em to tell me that." And so, many times I strayed
off the main roads as I roamed the state, to stumble onto a piece of the
past that should no longer be there, yet somehow was. That was how in 1991,
I met the eccentric ballad singer Pleaz Mobley, who had some brief notoriety
in the 1960s performing at festivals with fiddler Clester Hounchel, before
disappearing into obscurity. I had assumed him dead long ago. And that was
how I met fiddler Sid Hudnall, who lived with his ancient mother in an isolated
farmstead, called Happy Valley because there they had escaped the curse
of civilization all their lives. And that was how in 1971 I met the sister
of legendary fiddler Henry Bandy. Bandy was born in 1876 and died in 1952,
but she insisted that if I wanted to know so much about him, I should just
go ask him in person.
There is a great deal more to traditional
Kentucky fiddling than just the tunes themselves. They are romantic expressions
of a world and a kind of people we will never know again. So let them tell
you their stories about what it was like to know old time fiddling in a
time gone by, and why the old Kentucky fiddle music was inseparable from
the players lives and the lives of those who came before them. Well
begin where I began.
Luther Strong
When I was first becoming aware of old
time fiddle music, I heard some recordings of William "Billie"
Stepp and Luther Strong, two of the finest eastern Kentucky fiddlers ever
to be recorded. Their haunting and exciting renditions of classic pieces
like "Ways of the World," "The Hog Eyed Man," and "The
Last of Callahan" captivated me and surely were the beginning of my
own romance with Kentucky fiddling. So of course I tried to find out more
about them.
One evening I was visiting with Donald
Goodman in Booneville, and he began to reminisce about Luther Strong. Donald
had gone to school with Strongs son and knew that family quite well.
It seems that there had been a legendary Owsley County fiddler named Moab
"Dude" Freeman, who was something of a vagabond. He wandered around
eastern Kentucky like a hobo, even traveled out west and back, and was considered
one of the finest fiddlers to ever live in that region. Donald said Strong
played more like Freeman than anyone he ever heard, and he was sure that
was where Strong learned to play. He said Strong had an extra long bow "and
used every bit of it." Rumor had it that he put pennies under the feet
of his bridge to get a keener sound, but Donald said he was there when Strong
began that practice. He said they were at some local fiddlers contest,
and Strong said he couldnt compete because the bridge was too low
on his fiddle and the strings rubbed on the fingerboard. So Donald suggested
placing pennies under the bridge to raise it up. It worked well, Strong
went on to play "Sally Goodin" and win the contest, and
he liked the pennies so much, that he just kept them there, saying, "Its
just like Baby Bear, its just right." But who knows? They say
he was bad to drink from time to time, and a tale went around that when
the Library of Congress came around in 1937 to record him, he had no fiddle
at all, and they had to haul him out of jail and have him play on a borrowed
fiddle.
Luther Strong died in 1963. Twelve years
later, I asked an elderly Knott County fiddler who had known Strong if he
could play the "Hog Eyed Man." He said, "I can play it, but
if you want to hear it played right, you should go hear Luther Strong play
it." I said, "But I thought Luther Strong was dead." "No,
he lives down here on the river in Hazard," he assured me. "Well,
how long has it been since youve seen him?" He thought a moment
and said, "Its been about twenty years, I guess."
Charlie Kessinger
There was a fiddler I only spent one evening
with in 1974, but who left me with an unforgettable memory of a man from
another age, living as a stranger in modern times.
Early in the spring of 1974, I would sit
out on the porch of our house in Bowling Green, Kentucky, playing fiddle
and guitar with my brother. Every couple of days, an elderly man would walk
by and stop to listen a while. Finally, he introduced himself as Leonard
Kessinger, and we stopped to visit with him. It turned out his father was
a fiddler and he played guitar with him when he was a young man. So I arranged
to go visit them at their homeplace in nearby Morgantown.
Charlie Kessinger was born in 1883, in
Butler County. He learned to play fiddle and banjo from his father, who
was born in 1857, when that part of Kentucky was still barely settled. Charlie
talked with great emotion about learning to play as a boy, and about the
fiddlers he grew up around, all of whom he had long outlived:
"I learned first one tune, then another.
And I used to be awful bad to whistle. All I had to do was hear them play.
Id get the tune and go to whistling it, and I learned it from my whistling.
I was a wonderful whistler, but now Ive got these old false teeth,
I cant whistle at all with em.
"I played a tune for a long time before
I knowed any name for it. My daddy caught it from an old cross-eyed man
whistling it. And we always called it Jud Doughertys Tune.
That was the old mans name. One of my neighbors wanted us to bring
my violin one night and play somewhere. I began to play that, and he began
singing right after me, Down in New Orleans. That was the name
of it.
"I learnt McKinley March
and Whistling Rufus from Jim Wallace James. Taken all around,
he was the best musician I ever seen. He couldnt use a bow, though,
like my daddy could. My daddy could handle a bow the best of any fiddler
I ever played with.
"Old Tennessee
Lord, I wish I had a good fiddler to play after that tune. I did love to
pick that on a banjer
. Thats been a long time ago. Been a lot
of change in things since then. I used to have some of the finest fiddlers
to play with when I was a young man. Five or six different ones, and theyre
every one dead."
At this point, he broke down and began
to cry.
Jim Bowles
Jim Bowles was born in 1903 in Monroe County,
Kentucky. He grew up in a very musical area, and he was influenced by a
number of local fiddlers. His mother told him of the musicians from the
past, such as Gilbert Maxey:
"He was an old colored man, and they
had him playing for those old dances. Whats that, Uncle Gilbert?
Christmas Eve," hed say. Well, by God, cant
you play nothing but Christmas Eve? So hed start
on the same tune. And she said hed play the same tune every time.
It was the only one he knew. Christmas Eve was the best dancing
tune in the world, and he could play it, she said. Thats been ninety
years ago.
"I guess I was about ten years old.
Id always play you have those little sticks of stovewood,
you know, and Id get em up and saw on em, like I was a-fiddling
when I was a little bitty feller. And my father, times was
hard and he had to go to Indiana and make money. Back in them days, there
wasnt no money to be got hardly. And he came through Louisville, and
he came to a pawn shop. He bought me a fiddle. And of course I learnt several
tunes."
One of the first fiddlers Jim learned from
was a traveling photographer named Homer Botts:
"He used to come here. He made pictures.
Just run around over the country. I dont guess he ever worked any.
And hed come here, and Motherd say, Well, Homer, you been
to dinner? Well give you your dinner and you can take some of our
pictures. And he had a camera. Its set up on things like tobacco
sticks. And hed play them tunes, now. And hed stay here sometimes
all night with us. He was an awful good fiddler real smooth."
Jims main teacher, however, was his
uncle Wash Carter:
"He had a good education, Uncle Wash
did. He taught school, was a lawyer. And he learnt me a lot about fiddling.
Ive heard my mother say she used to hear him fiddle when she was a
young girl. See, we was raised right here by him, and hed come up
here. When I was a young boy, why, he got crippled he took
the rheumatiz, something and Id play Cumberland
Gap, and I didnt come down on the fine part like he wanted to,
and hed just quarrel at me, and he says, I know you can do that.
"I got to going to contests. I guess
I was twenty years old. They used to have them at Tompkinsville. Theyd
have em at schoolhouses, at high schools, and places like that. Ive
played in contests with an old fiddler Cooney Perdue, but boy I couldnt
do nothing with him. Henry Ford took him way up there, you know, years ago,
and played in a contest. He like to have won it."
Jim played semi-professionally in his younger
years. In the early days of radio, he played fiddle for Finley "Red" Belcher, who went on to become a well known performer around Kentucky before
his death in an automobile accident.
Around 1972, when Jim was in his late sixties,
a neighbor of his told me that he was not looking too good, and didnt
look like he was going to be around much longer. Jim Bowles lived to be
ninety years old, and finally passed away in 1993.
Gusty Wallace
Gustace "Gusty" Wallace was born
in Hart County, Kentucky, on November 24, 1890. Shortly after his birth,
his family moved to neighboring Sulphur Well, where he lived for the rest
of his life. His father was one of the most renowned old time fiddlers in
that part of Kentucky, and Gusty was inspired by him to learn to play.
"My dad, his name was Addison. They
called him Ad, you know. Ads father went to kind of a musical one
time. They was playing all these pieces
He says, I wish Ad was
here. That was my daddy, you know And they
said, Why, Mr. Wallace, theres a lot of people here can play
these pieces. He said, I know it, but there aint none
of em can give it that little whiff of the bow that Ads got.
"I started playing at seven. My dad
would go to work and left the fiddle on the bed. I played it while he was
at work. I played two or three little pieces before he knew it
Shortening
Bread, Bound To Have a Little Fun
"
Gusty began to play for dances by the time
he was twelve or thirteen and continued to do so all his life. In the 1930s,
he fiddled professionally with the Bob Atcher band in Louisville, and later
on with the Prairie Ramblers in Des Moines, Iowa, hobnobbing with Clayton
McMichen and Sleepy Marlin along the way. As a result, his repertoire and
playing style ranged from the old local tunes to more modern rags and popular
songs. However, Gusty spent most of his life in Sulphur Well, where aspiring
fiddlers for miles around came to him for inspiration. I was told that Charlie
Bush brought his young son Sam to learn from Gusty.
Gusty had a little shack out behind his
house his "music room" where he
could go and play for hours without disturbing his wife, Ella. We had many
a long session there, interrupted only by the hour when the Lawrence Welk
show came on. We would go in and sit with Ella, and Gusty would say, "Now
thats real music."
I learned a lot about fiddling from Gusty,
and being only twenty years old, I also learned a lot about life. We were
getting together regularly to play and record for some time, working out
intricate arrangements of fiddle tunes with the banjo, but then I got into
a busy time at school and didnt see him for several weeks. One day
I received a letter from him which said, "We were doing so good together,
and now youve quit me." Suddenly I realized that this old man
was not just a fiddler, but a friend who counted on my company.
Gusty must have decided it was time for
me to grow up, because not long after that we had another little run-in.
The Wallaces were Mormons, members of a Mormon Church settlement that had
been in the area for a long time and endured no little friction with the
other competing Christian denominations locally. Toward the end of one visit,
Gusty went in the back room and came out with a Mormon Bible. He proceeded
to begin my religious education for me, according to his point of view.
I found the first excuse I could to tell him it was time for me to be heading
home now, but he followed me to the car and continued his testimonial while
I sat there with the engine running, too embarrassed to just cut him off
and leave. Finally, enjoying himself immensely, he stopped and said, "Bruce,
do you think all I ever do is just sit around here and play the fiddle?"
Gusty died in 1985 at the age of ninety-five,
when his house burned down. He was trapped upstairs. One of the last of
the old generation of south-central Kentucky fiddlers, he was a living example
of the importance that the old timers placed on being faithful to ones
cultural as well as family traditions:
"My father died when I was seventeen
years old, and I never will forget what he said. He called me to the bed,
and he said, Well, its left up to you to do the playing now."
Pat Kingery
Pat Kingery was born in 1912. He lived
most of his life in the little community of Nobob, in Barren County, Kentucky.
As a boy he learned tunes from his mothers whistling, and from his
uncle Jodie Matthews who came to visit occasionally from Wayne County farther
east. As Pat grew older, he was influenced by many excellent local fiddlers,
including the well-known Carver family, and Page Ellis, who represented
Barren County in the regional contest sponsored by Henry Ford in the 1920s.
Pat eventually played semi-professionally and was to be influenced by Tommy
Jackson and other fiddlers around Nashville in the 40s and 50s.
He played for years around the southern part of Kentucky in a band called
"Pat Kingery and His Kentuckians." As a result, Pat had a large
and varied repertoire, ranging from the rare local tunes to more modern
radio music. He was one of the many fiddlers of his generation caught between
the romance of the old traditions and the allure of professionalism. But
he remembered vividly what it was that kept him attached to his roots:
"I had a hard way to go to get started.
My daddy died when I was real little. There was nobody left but me and my
mother and my brother. Back then, you made a quarter any way you could,
and you could sell possum hides and stuff like that, you know. My dad used
to trap, and we had some traps back here, so I set them traps out, caught
some possums and stuff, two or three skunks one time. There was an old feller
lived down across the way, bought furs. So one day I went to see the old
man and take my furs to sell a few. I walked up on the front porch, and
I heard something and I stopped. And I had never heard anything that sounded
as pretty. Well, I forgot about being cold. I forgot about everything. I
just stood there. By and by, he quit, and I knocked on the door, and he
said, Come in. And I went in. And he was sitting over in a chair
in front of the fireplace, and he had this thing in his hands. And I never
said, I got some furs, nor nothing. Said, What is that
you got? He said, Thats a fiddle. And I said, Is
that what I heard a while ago? He said, Yep. Did you like it?
I said, I sure did. He said, Well, Ill play you
another one, then. Then well look at your hides. So he set there
and played When You and I were Young, Maggie. That was the first
time I ever seen a fiddle or ever heard one. But it done something to me
that I never could get rid of. It created a desire that some way, some how,
I knew I had to play a fiddle.
"I was about nine years old then.
So you know how they used to send out in the mail these Sears and Roebuck
catalogs. My mother had one of them. And she had it spread on her lap. And
turning the pages of that catalog, I seen a picture of a fiddle. And it
drove me crazy. I wanted one, said Im gonna get me one. Well, it must
have been about this time of year (January), this magazine came out. It
had an advertisement in it that said, Sell thirty packages of garden
seed to get this violin. I begged my mother to let me do that. And
she finally agreed to it, sent off and got the seed. And of course the neighbors
felt sorry for me. They bought em right off. And I sent it in, and
I waited and waited and waited til it come. And it finally got here,
the whole thing wasnt but about that long [twelve inches]. Just a
little bitty toy. And thats what I started to learn to play the fiddle
on.
"When I was about eleven years old,
they let me have a few rows of tobacco across the tobacco patch. And I sold
that tobacco. It brought twenty-eight dollars. And I got the Sears and Roebuck
catalog and bought my first fiddle."
Pats health was very poor. When I
went to his house, he would drag himself up out of the bed and stand in
the middle of the room, swaying back and forth, and play until he gave out.
He knew I was interested in the older tunes and would think about them between
times that I saw him, and try to play them for me when we got together.
I guess he understood that this was his last opportunity to pass his music
on. The last time I saw him was in 1976. His brother Edgar told me he had
been put into the hospital in nearby Glasgow, so I went to see him there.
I was leaving for the summer to work up north, and I pretty well knew Id
never see him again. As we parted, I told him, "Ill play one
for you." He said, "Id like that."

Bruce Greene: Carrying On Kentuckys Old Time Traditions
By Mary Larsen
When Bruce Greene left his native New Jersey to
study folklore at Western Kentucky University, he probably never dreamed
the music he loved would become such a big part of his life. As a college
student and afterwards, Bruce befriended and learned from many Kentucky
fiddlers born in the last century who still played the old style. Bruce
has been carrying on these archaic tunes and this lovely old style of playing
ever since. Bruces latest recording, the critically-acclaimed Five
Miles of Ellum Wood: Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Solos, pays tribute to
those old-timers he learned from and whom he deeply respects. Although Bruce
is sad to see the traditions of the world disappearing day by day, he is
certainly doing his part to carry on his own preferred style of traditional
music. In addition to recording, Bruce occasionally teaches at such summer
music schools as Augusta, Mars Hill, Swannanoa, and the Festival of American
Fiddle Tunes.
Youre originally from New Jersey
how
did you get an interest in Kentucky? Did you choose to go to college there
because you were interested in the music?
Well, I was interested in the music at
that point in my life. I was thinking about being a folklorist. At that
time there were very few schools I wanted to go somewhere in
the south, because I liked the music and there were very few schools
where you could take folklore classes on an undergraduate level. Most of
them, if they had anything, were Masters programs, and I wanted to
study it right then. So Western Kentucky University was one where you could
study it as an undergraduate. So I just kind of took that name out of a
hat, really, and went down there without knowing what I was getting into.
It turned out to be a really good experience, because they had two or three
teachers who were really into the music. This one teacher had grown up around
some old musicians he was from Kentucky so he
gave me a couple of people to look up and start out with that he knew already.
Were the fiddlers you looked up open
and eager to share their music and stories with you?
Well, it varied quite a bit. There were
some that were still playing actively more or less, and they were glad of
anybody to get together with. But then there were a lot of people, the real
old guys, that quit years ago, had just kind of forgotten about it, and
I had to push them a lot to get them to play. Like the first time Id
go there they wouldnt play, wouldnt play, wouldnt play,
and Id come back again a month later, theyd feel like playing
that time. I think part of it was just not being sure about a stranger.
So theyd wait and see if you were going to come back and werent
just somebody passing through. It varied all the time.
How did you get the interest in folklore
as a teenager?
It wasnt exactly just folklore, but
I just kind of got interested in folk music, the whole folk revival thing.
I dont know exactly why. It seemed like whenever Id hear records
of older traditional songs, I was always kind of attracted to that for some
reason.
What instruments did you play?
I started to play the guitar when I was
about twelve, and the banjo when I was about fifteen, and I got a fiddle
when I was eighteen or nineteen. I remember what really got me interested
in the fiddle, and it just happened that it also got me interested in Kentucky
fiddling, was one of those Library of Congress recordings that were around
at that time. The library in the town where I was living had a record collection,
and they had those Library of Congress recordings. And one of them had those
two Kentucky fiddlers, Luther Strong and Bill Stepp. So they were some of
the first ones I ever heard, and I remember it seemed so strange, just neat
music, so different from any violin stuff Id heard. When I was a kid
we used to go to square dances at a grange hall in town, but it was nothing
like that kind of dance music
.
How did you learn to play, strictly
by ear? Did you take lessons from anybody?
I never took lessons from anybody. When
I first decided I wanted to learn to play, I bought a violin from some local
place, and just had to try to play along with records, and kind of stumbled
around for a long time. When I look back, it was strange because I was sort
of aware that there was a big old-time music community around New York City,
but I guess I was just too young and shy or something. I didnt ever
go there and try to find people that I could learn from. I started out learning
from records. I didnt know anything about how to use a bow, I just
tried to make the notes. So it went kind of slowly to start.
Was it the same with guitar and banjo?
Did anybody help you with those?
Banjo was like that. With guitar, when
I first started out, I took a few guitar lessons from a music teacher
just kind of generic guitar lessons. And I didnt like that much; I
just quit. But I had a cousin who was into all this folk singing stuff,
and shed come to visit, and played and sang folk songs. Thats
really kind of what got me started playing music. I just kind of went from
there.
What are some of the differences between
western and eastern Kentucky styles?
The more I think about it over the
years, the less I can distinguish styles, because the people I learned from,
and the music Ive heard from all around Kentucky, its so dependent
on the individual. There was one man I learned a lot from out in western
Kentucky, who really played more like what people think of as an eastern
Kentucky style. Its hard for me to generalize a style
Eastern
Kentucky is known for having that dark, modal sounding stuff, a lot of solo
playing, a lot of cross-tuning, things like that. And western Kentucky,
at least when I was around there, didnt have too much of that
It was close enough to Nashville and the Grand Ole Opry and all that, I
think it was influenced a lot by radio. One thing I would say is that there
wasnt the kind of isolation in western Kentucky that there was in
eastern Kentucky, so I think they had more influences passing through. Whereas
in eastern Kentucky, there were a lot of people that really just were there
and were never really affected by much outside their own region.
Did these people you learned from play
mostly by themselves or with other people, or for dances?
Well, when they were young they played
with people a lot. When I was learning to play, when I was living around
there, as a tradition, it was really on the decline. The people that got
together and played really did more kind of newer music bluegrass,
and stuff they got on the radio. There were very few people that got together
and just played the old tunes. As far as a living tradition, I think it
had pretty much evolved into bluegrass and more modern music. So with a
lot of the fiddlers Id get together with, they always said they hardly
played at all except when Id come around, and then wed play
the old tunes. Kentuckys funny, because it had an incredibly strong
music tradition, and it kind of has this mystique, and yet it never really
got discovered much. A lot of bluegrass and country musicians came out of
Kentucky, but as far as their old traditional music, so little of it really
got any attention paid to it until it was almost gone. If you compare it
to places like Missouri, and Texas maybe, places where theres a real
active fiddling community, Kentucky, when I was living there
that was mostly the 70s there was nothing like that,
really. There were just little isolated pockets of people that got together.
There were lots of fiddlers, but they were all scattered around, and most
of them wanted to play newer music. So you really had to beat the bushes
to find the old people who knew the old-fashioned stuff, which was what
I was after.
What do you think people can do to preserve
these real traditional ways of playing, to learn all the nuances
Well, I guess the biggest thing I can think
of is to listen to as much as you can of it. Its a little bit ticklish
of a thing to say, I suppose, but a lot of the subtleties of the old style
of playing [are lost] in a string band context; you dont hear that
stuff. I think the more people play in string bands, the less inclined they
are to put in a lot of the subtle stuff, and carry on a lot of the kind
of strange modal tunes and things like that. So I tend to think of it as
music that you play by yourself, or with one or two people at a time. Its
definitely not festival style music.
One thing Ive thought a lot about,
if you talk about Kentucky style, is I think, especially with eastern Kentucky,
a lot of the style is not so much to do with that region as it is to do
with being an older style. Recordings Ive heard of real old fiddlers
from other parts of the country seem to me very much like the eastern Kentucky
style fiddlers, and that made me think that its more something to
do with how far back in time the style goes, more than what regions theyre
from. So what you think of as a classic eastern Kentucky style, to me is
just really more of an older style that was probably a lot more widespread
in the old days, and it just kind of hung on in eastern Kentucky longer.
People like Marcus Martin and Bill Hensley, the old fiddlers down here in
North Carolina, they could just as well have been from Kentucky, the way
I knew Kentucky music. Some of the Mississippi fiddlers that people listen
to, its the same way. Its pretty vague stuff, because we have
so few examples of the older players, from back in the 1800s. There are
really just isolated little examples of playing from that time. So its
awful risky to make too many generalizations
.
How do you encourage students to learn?
Are there any specific techniques you teach?
Well, I concentrate a lot on bowing. I
know a lot of unusual tunes and kind of rare tunes that people are interested
in. But I do try to give them some basic bowing techniques, of what I know
as kind of the older style traditional playing. I put a lot of emphasis
on that, because all the older fiddlers always say that all your playing
is in the bow for the old southern style stuff. And it really is pretty
true for most of the tunes. A lot of its not near as notey as northern
music, or contest style stuff, things like that. Although some of it is.
But generally speaking, its more kind of hoedown stuff, and there
is a lot of bow work involved. So thats really what I like to emphasize
A lot of a tune is defined by the certain
bowing patterns that you have, and that affects the notes you make. One
of the old fiddlers described it to me that you would start out with a long
down pull of the bow and fill in with a lot of sawing and different kinds
of patterns, shuffling kind of things, and generally you try to end up the
phrase with an up stroke of the bow. Wherever you go, people have different
names to describe things like that, but John Salyers family always
said that he would describe it as rolling the bow. Like to end a phrase
on an up-stroke of the bow, you would come down and roll the bow back over
to end up going up, and it could be done in bunch of different ways, with
different kinds of shuffling patterns, but it always ended up with the bow
rolling back up in an upward direction. They were trying to learn from him,
and hed always get after them and say "roll your bow there."
Sometimes they could get it and sometimes they couldnt
.
You hold your fiddle against your chest
or shoulder. Did you learn that way originally or did you pick it up when
you went to Kentucky?
I guess I did pick it up after I went to
Kentucky. And I kind of experimented back and forth with it under my chin
and against my chest for quite a while, and Im not sure why I ended
up with the against the chest thing. A lot of those old people hold it that
way, but not all of them. I guess I thought it looked old-timey or something,
you know? [Laughter] Then I got stuck that way.
You kind of rock the fiddle when you
play
Yeah, well, I never did that consciously.
When youre holding it against your chest, its a lot more liable
to move around that way, and it just kind of happens. One time somebody
pointed that out to me, and it was the first time I ever really knew I was
doing it. And they say this old fiddler Ed Haley, who was around Kentucky
and West Virginia, they talk about him doing it. And Ill bet anything
that it was the same thing, that it just naturally happened, holding the
fiddle that way. Im starting to think about changing it, actually,
because Ive developed tendonitis in my left elbow, and I think its
probably partly to do with holding the fiddle that way. So when I get to
where I can play more, I think I might experiment with holding it other
ways and see what happens. Ill probably ruin my image, but Ive
got to do it. I havent even touched the fiddle for about three months.
I overdid it last summer and got this tendonitis. Its starting to
get better now, but its been a long stretch of time not playing.
Do you read music?
Just barely. Not enough to really say I
do.
Would you like to read better, or do
you consider it more of a
hindrance?
I dont think its a hindrance,
but I dont know how much Id really get out of it. I dont
know why, exactly, but most of the tunes I know, I learned from people.
Ive learned a few out of books I meticulously pick out
the melody one note at a time off paper. It seems like for some reason,
the things I learn from books, or even from records, I dont retain
as well. Having learned so much from these old-timers, it just seems like
I have to have some kind of personal connection to the tune to really keep
it in my head. So the stuff I learn off paper, I have to really work at
keeping it memorized. Its kind of peculiar
.
Do you have any advice for people learning?
You know, its funny, I look at myself
as kind of in a backwater or something with fiddling, because Ive
concentrated so much on just a certain regions music. I kind of feel
like Im a little out of the mainstream. But something I always did
think a lot about was
to me, what I love about fiddling are the traditions
that have been handed down to us. Everywhere you go there was a different
tradition and a different style of playing, and thats what I love
about music and fiddling, and I think thats partly why Ive tried
so much just to play one regional type of playing. Because I hate to see
all the different regional styles get homogenized and disappear. I guess
if I were going to give some advice, thats what I would encourage
them to do: try to learn the music of a region, or a style, and learn it
really well, and not try to do too many different things. I guess that attitude
fits into a lot of my philosophy about life in the first place.
As time changes, especially as the older
traditional fiddlers are all dying out, fiddling is really changing. People
dont have their example to hold onto very much. Fiddlings becoming
a lot more, Id say eclectic, I guess. People just play whatever appeals
to them, without worrying about where it came from or anything like that.
In a way, I think thats really a shame, but at the same time, when
I think about the old people I knew, most of them didnt have any prejudices
about it like that. They learned anything they came across that they happened
to like. They wouldnt say, "That doesnt sound like an old
Kentucky piece, Im not going to learn that." Anything that grabbed
their attention, theyd try to learn it, because they just loved music.
They werent aware of preserving a regional style. Its hard to
say. Traditional fiddling has kind of moved on into a realm of preserving
something, rather than just playing what you grew up around.
What if there is no local traditional
style where some people live? Do you think people should buy recordings
of a particular region and try to learn from them?
I dont know. But it is just so sad
to me to see the regional traditions die out. You see, really, anymore,
there are hardly any regional styles at all. Not even around here. Other
than people self-consciously carrying on some regional style. I guess what
Im saying is that thats what I wish would be happening, but
I realize that thats not the way the world is anymore. I dont
know how Id advise people about that. As years go on, I think more
and more that all that really matters is to enjoy yourself with music. Have
fun with it, whatever youre doing. Tradition is a funny thing. Tradition
is less and less a factor in the world anymore. I learned so much within
the tradition that I still think of it that way a lot, but I know its
not really available to people much anymore.
[To contact Bruce Greene about workshops
or bookings, write him at Route 5, Box 340, Burnsville, NC 28714.]
Stuart Duncan:
Nashvilles Versatile Virtuoso
By Jack Tuttle
When I first heard Stuart Duncan play at
a bluegrass festival in the summer of 1978, there was little doubt that
the future of bluegrass fiddling was in good hands. All of fourteen years
old, he was sitting in with Mac Wiseman at a bluegrass festival in Indiana,
improvising through songs with a maturity that belied his age. That was
nearly twenty years ago. Now, at the age of thirty-three, he is a seasoned
veteran. As fiddler for the Nashville Bluegrass Band, Stuart Duncan has
won the International Bluegrass Music Associations "Fiddler of
the Year" award for seven years running. In addition, his demand in
the Nashville studio scene has made him one of the most recorded players
in the bluegrass, country and contemporary acoustic music fields.
Rising to the top of his profession is
no accident. Stuarts playing reflects a mature approach that balances
taste with virtuosity. Though hes comfortable in numerous idioms,
it is in the bluegrass world that he has had the biggest impact. His playing
reflects an exploring, creative imagination, yet its always grounded
by a deep understanding of the early bluegrass stylists, like Chubby Wise
and Benny Martin. His driving, aggressive attack, complex phrasing and flawless
execution, even on the most demanding passages, have made him the prototype
bluegrass fiddler for the nineties.
Stuart was inspired to take up the fiddle
at age seven, after hearing performances by Vassar Clements, Byron Berline,
Bill Cunningham, Dan Hicks, Side Page and others at a folk club in Escondido,
California, where his father worked as a sound man. Stuart took classical
lessons for a few months, but promptly switched to lessons from an old-time
fiddler. "He showed me Soldiers Joy and I was on
my way," says Stuart.
At age nine, Stuart formed his first band.
They soon won a San Diego radio station contest, with a first prize of a
trip to Nashville with a Friday night appearance on the Grand Ole Opry.
Also on the show that night were Lester Flatt, Jimmy Martin, Bill Anderson,
and Billy Walker. Stuart discontinued his lessons at that point, choosing
instead to listen to and play along with records. "My dad was driving
to L.A. at least once a week to pick up a new record for me." Some
of Stuarts biggest influences around this time were Byron Berline,
Vassar Clements, StÚphane Grappelli, Joe Venuti, Chubby Wise, Kenny
Baker, Darrol Anger, and Sam Bush.
Stuart dabbled briefly in the contest scene,
but found that bluegrass didnt go over too well in the contests. "There
was a little bit of politics involved in some of those tight-woven California
old-time fiddle camps, and my tendencies to play a lot of bluegrass were
not real welcome at that time. They were pretty strict about that kind of
thing."
At age seventeen, Stuart went to South
Plains College in Levelland, Texas, with the aim of getting an Associates
Degree in Bluegrass. He stayed there just one year, however. "I felt
like it was something that I could have put to much greater use if I had
set my mind to it. It was an age problem. Maybe I should have finished that
last year of high school and waited till I was eighteen or nineteen."
Stuart then spent three years with Lost
Highway, and played in a country bar in San Bernardino: "Electric guitar,
electric fiddle, singing Merle Haggard songs. Little did I know Id
be playing country music five days a week ten years later." Stuart
then worked with Larry Sparks for a year before joining the Nashville Bluegrass
Band.
The following interview took place in Palo
Alto, California, in September, 1996.
When did you realize you were going
to be a full-time professional musician?
I dont know. Maybe that last time
I saw Byron play before I started taking lessons! Maybe I havent decided
yet [laughter].
When you were a youngster, how important
were your parents in creating the environment for all this to happen?
It wouldnt have happened without
them.
I bring this up because I think I first
saw you at the age of thirteen in Indiana. Talking to your dad, he told
me you were spending the summer travelling to bluegrass festivals, which
I thought was a pretty neat thing for a parent to do.
Yeah, we actually first did it in 76,
when I was twelve. And I did it again two years later with Allison Brown,
same thing. The two of us and my dad. Same van! Yeah, that was probably
the changing point, or the thing that kept me going, seeing J.D. Crowes
band, and Keith Whitley was with him, and seeing Keith Whitley with Ralph
two years before that
Thats what really got me into playing
more traditional kinds of bluegrass, when I finally heard Ralph Stanley
live.
Lets talk about your performing
and your approach to your breaks. When you work up a new tune, do you work
up a solo? To what extent are you improvising, to what extent are you relying
on working up some ideas?
I try to keep the shape of the melody in
my mind, and depending on the way I think the lyrics of the tune fall, the
song might dictate whether or not I add more blues to the idea, or more
swing, or real traditional bluegrass, a little bit more anger or not, depending
on the kind of song it is.
Do you tend to play the same kind of
solos night after night, do you get into a kind of groove with them?
If I happen to remember something Ive
done in the last few shows or the night before, I might try it again if
I can remember part of it, or something like it. But theyre pretty
much
they come and go.
So you run on ideas on the fly, as opposed
to woodshedding at home, constructing a break
youre not taking
that approach.
Not with bluegrass. If Im playing
with more complex tunes that have more advanced ideas
Ive gone
out on the road with Bela Fleck a few times. To work out some stuff for
some of his tunes I have to think about chord progression, and spend some
time figuring out ways to get from A to B, C to R.
Do you feel like your playing is consistent?
Do you have good days and bad days?
Oh, yeah. Sometimes I end up having to
play with a little bit of defense mechanism. If I feel like Im having
a bad day, Ill end up playing less, or go out on a limb fewer times
keep it safer.
When you have a bad day, is it intonation
that youre thinking about, or timing, or ideas?
Ideas come slower. If I feel like Im
having a bad day, I usually try to play myself out of it. Positive thinking
or whatever. Sometimes that works. When that doesnt work, then Ive
really had a bad day.
When youre in the studio, do you
have a different approach to soloing? Do you try to come more prepared in
terms of ideas ahead of time? Lets say youre doing a Nashville
Bluegrass Band session for your next album, are you going to go there and
improvise on the spot for something thats going to be kept?
Yeah. It might cross my mind that, "Oh,
I could have worked out something for this," but I never seem to.
It seems like your recording career
is in pretty high gear these days. Do you enjoy it?
Yeah, its the greatest practice ever,
to play with as many different musicians as I play with
.
Pierre Schryer:
Legendary Canadian Fiddler
By Charlie Walden
Canadian old-time fiddling has always fascinated
me. The tradition shares many similarities to the music of my native Missouri:
The playing style emphasizes clean, well-articulated bowing; Canadian hoe-downs
and reels are "notey," melodically complex and played with drive
suitable for square dancing; Canadians embrace other tune types in their
repertoire, such as jigs, hornpipes, polkas, and waltzes.
Over the past decade the name Schryer has
become unalterably associated with the best of Canadian fiddling. Certainly
Julien Schryer and Juliette Audet of Saulte Ste. Marie ("the Soo" for short), Ontario, could never have imagined the success their progeny
would attain. Their first son, Patrick was a guitarist, followed by Raymond
who became a fiddler and initially patterned his playing after his uncle
Bud Schryer.
In case of the fiddling Schryers, good
things come in sets of three, namely the fiddling Schryer triplets
Louis, Pierre and Dan who were born in 1968. All three along
with older brother Raymond and sister Julie (Schryer-Lefebvre) on piano
have enjoyed undisputed domination of competitive fiddling in Canada for
ten years. Their accomplishment in winning major Canadian fiddling competitions
amounted to nothing short of dynasty in the late 1980s through the mid-1990s.
They imitated and mastered the styles of
the greatest Canadian fiddlers ever known, such as Graham Townsend, Ward
Allen, Don Messer, and Jean Carignan. They also followed closely the music
of Sean McGuire of Ireland, Jerry Holland of Cape Breton, and Americans
Bobby Hicks, Mark OConnor and Johnny Gimble. The compact disc release
by the Schryer triplets (Triple Fiddle, The Schryer Triplets, Canada,
1993) is a remarkable display of combined and individual mastery of fiddling
and showcases these many influences. In recent years the triplets have set
about to make their individual marks on the world of traditional music.
Pierre Schryer in particular has distinguished
himself as a world class Celtic fiddler while still maintaining his Canadian
roots. He worked for a time with older brother Raymond as a violin maker
but has since set his tools aside in favor of a full-time career as a working
musician. He has assembled a band which includes his sister Julie on piano,
Brian Pickell on guitar, and multi-instrumentalist Nathan Curry, and is
actively touring with this group in the company of step dancers Siobhn Reaney
(Irish), Catherine MacLeod (Scottish Highland dancer) and Martin Dunheme
(QuÚbec).
Pierres recent activities include
the release of a new CD entitled The New Canadian Waltz (1996 New
Canadian Records) which features his band along with percussionist Brad
Fremlin, a tour with British Columbia-based Celtic rock group Mad Pudding,
and an Ireland tour this Spring which included representing Canada in a
fiddle showcase in Limerick on March 22.
Pierre also excels as an illustrator (he
created a self-portrait in watercolor for the cover of his new CD), and
has had numerous local showings of his artwork.
Were there any other fiddlers in your
family? All your siblings are musicians, arent they?
Yes, my oldest brother Patrick played guitar.
Theres my uncle, Bud Schryer. He played fiddle and was well known
in the Saulte Ste. Marie area. He was an old-time fiddler and admired people
like Don Messer. He played for the dances here and was inducted into the
fiddlers Hall of Fame. He provided a lot of good music for the people here,
mainly for the square dances. Also, my dad recalls his father playing fiddle
but I never got to hear him. My dad played guitar and used to sing to us
when we were kids.
I remember you mentioning once that
you grew up speaking French.
Yeah. Actually, we went to school from
Kindergarten on in French School and our high school was a French immersion
program. French is not that strong among the population in the Soo [Saulte
Ste. Marie]. But it was always strong in our family. My mom is from QuÚbec.
But you were born in the Soo?
Thats right. April 13, 1968
.
Who was your biggest influence when
you were starting out?
That would have to be my older brother
Raymond. He went off to school in Toronto and came back with some great
tapes and records and let us use them and listen to them. I play a lot with
Julie, my sister, these different styles of fiddling. Raymond introduced
us to the different styles that were out there. He was into Irish, Scottish,
Shetland, and he was bringing it all home even some American
stuff. Of course the real learning was happening with the triplets. We sort
of bounced things off of each other. We all started at the same age; we
were eight years old. We were classically trained at the same time we were
going to fiddle contests. This went on through the time we were eighteen
or so.
Where were you studying violin?
At the Conservatory. Theres a conservatory
here in the Soo, the Algoma Conservatory of Music at Algoma University.
Thats where I teach now. I teach traditional fiddle playing. I also
have a number of private students.
When the triplets were playing against
each other I guess you first had to compete against older brother Raymond.
No, not really. Raymond is seven years
older than the rest of us so he was in a different category in the competitions.
So the triplets were competing against
each other?
Thats right. It was only in the later
years that we played against Raymond. The triplets competed in the twelve
and under category and went up through the different categories and then
into the Open. We started into the Open as early as age sixteen. It was
friendly rivalry.
That wasnt too common, was it?
No, but its happening more and more.
It seems like the young ones are learning really, really quick.
Ive noticed that down here. Kids
are getting hotter much faster these days.
Yeah. Theres so much access to CDs
and tapes around, and teachers. Theyre all into it. They can get really
good at twelve and compete in the Open at age fifteen or sixteen and do
well.
Its almost scary! In a way you
set the standard for this sort of thing in Canada.
Thats what happened with us. There
were three of us doing it. Raymonds generation started this evolution
and the standard of playing was changing. And I think our generation has
evolved the competition style a bit.
How would you say the music is different
today from fifteen years ago at a competition like Shelburne?
Well, wed hear more intricate and
more complex tunes. People are not afraid of playing their own compositions,
too.
Are other genres of music coming into
the competitions, such as American contest fiddling or Irish music?
Well, there are people coming from all
over to compete but the emphasis is still on the old-time Canadian fiddling.
Thats what the contests are supposed to help preserve. There are other
styles creeping in, especially the origins, like Scottish and Irish. Weve
done it subtly into the Canadian style.
The most pervasive thing down here is
the style espoused by Mark OConnor. Is that style finding its way
into Canadian fiddle competitions?
Yes. There are quite a few who look up
to Mark. There are many players who imitate him, including myself. The thing
with Mark OConnor is hes sort of changed things and set a style
there, a standard I guess. Ive attended his fiddle camp.
In a way, you guys did the same thing
in Canadian fiddling competitions. Raised the bar, sort of, for the rest
of the fiddlers.
One result of this is that its much
tougher for judges now. They have to be of a higher caliber so they can
understand the changes of standard.
You mean you could play a complicated
tune well and play over the heads of the judges if they dont understand
what it is you are trying to do?
Thats it exactly. The fiddle contests
have got to evolve to some extent. Not too much though; theres a standard
or tradition they have to follow. A subtle change throughout the years is
good.
[To order Pierres CD The New Canadian
Waltz, call 1-800-JOE RADIO (or 1-416-445-2500).]
Woody Paul:
Fiddling the Cowboy Way
By Michael Simmons
1997 marks the 20th anniversary of the
cowboy trio Riders in the Sky. Who could have predicted that when the trio Ranger Doug (Idol of Americas Youth), Woody Paul (King
of the Cowboy Fiddlers) and Too Slim (Man of a Thousand Slogans) started performing the music of Gene Autry, Roy Rogers and the other singing
cowboys (in the dark days of disco and punk rock, no less) that they would
not only survive, but flourish and prosper.
The Riders combination of humor and
sterling musicianship helped reintroduce classic cowboy music to popular
culture and paved the way for the current western music renaissance. Along
the way they have released over fifteen albums, starred in two different
TV series (Riders in the Sky on CBS and Rider Radio Theater on TNN) and
produced their own radio show for NPR, all while playing over 200 shows
a year.
Perhaps the most surprising thing about
the Riders longevity is that they have managed to thrive with a split
personality. Many people arent quite sure how to take them. Are the
Riders in the Sky a comedy group that sings or musicians that tell jokes?
Because they are so funny, folks tend to ignore their strong musical talents.
On their two recent releases on Rounder
Records (Public Cowboy #1: The Music of Gene Autry and Always
Drink Upstream from The Herd) the Riders show the world that they are
first and foremost musicians. On these two CDs, Ranger Doug, Too Slim and
Woody Paul leave the jokes in the bunkhouse and do what they do best: sing
western songs with impeccable harmony. Maybe this return to basics will
get the band the respect they deserve as musicians. Woody Paul in particular
seems to be overlooked as a fiddler. His playing is always melodic with
a sweet, singing tone, and his fills and turnarounds are always inventive.
On the trios rare instrumentals he reveals himself to be one of the
best western swing fiddlers currently drawing a bow. I recently got to spend
some time talking to Woody. He was charming in the best southern fashion
and a delight to talk with.
Woody Paul grew up on a farm near Franklin,
Tennessee, in a musical family. His father, who was the teacher in a one-room
school house, played banjo, guitar and a little fiddle. He would play parties
and dances around the county. When he was eleven years old, Woody found
an old Sears and Roebuck fiddle in the closet. One Christmas, his father
set it up and got him a book on how to play the violin. From there Woody
pretty much taught himself to play. "It didnt take me but a little
while to write my first song," he recalls. "I wish I still had
it."
With a dearth of local players to learn
from, Woodys early influences came over the radio and television.
"I just wanted to play the fiddle and I figured that I could do it.
Every morning before school the Eddie Hill Show was on. I used to listen
to Benny Martin and Cecil Brower. They were the main ones."
Along with Martins bluegrass and
Browers western swing fiddling, Woody was picking up other influences
that would later appear in pieces like "Concerto for Violin and Longhorns."
He remembered a fellow from Alabama who had an early morning show who would
"bray like a mule and play the fiddle."
Woody had an obvious love of music so his
mother bought him a record player and he spent hours listening to players
like Howdy Forrester and Tommy Jackson. He learned to play tunes by slowing
the turntable down to 16 rpm, a technique that is lost to us in the compact
disc era. When he was thirteen, he started hanging around with his neighbors
Sam and Kirk McGee.
The McGees were early country music pioneers.
They appeared on the Grand Ole Opry starting in the 20s backing up
legends like Uncle Dave Macon and Fiddlin Arthur Smith and with their
string band the Fruit Jar Drinkers.
Sam McGee would take the young Woody Paul
with him to Nashville for his Opry performances. "I used to hang out
back stage. Roy Acuff gave me a fiddle when I graduated from high school
and told me never to get into the music business"
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